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Discussion for Today

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This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024_December_29


December 29

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NEW NOMINATIONS

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Category:World War II military aircraft

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Extended list of categories nominated
Nominator's rationale: Per the results of the prior CfD for WW1, which (although not participated in much) closed in delete, and for much the same reason: we generally don't categorize military equipment by war, because it's the sort of "performers by performance" categorization that is discouraged. While in this case, yes, it could be argued that for many types here WW2 service is somewhat defining, when you get down to the nitty-gritty it becomes less clear. Is the Avro Anson, for instance, defined by its World War 2 service in the Finnish Air Force? It doesn't seem likely. Categorizing only by manufacturing nation's service both eliminates some types' actual service (the Martin Maryland, for instance, is a U.S. type but was exclusively operated by the RAF) and is redundant to the "1930s/1940s military aircraft of Foo" tree, while opening the floodgates to everyone would result in some very long category sections for some aircraft. Overall this is a good example of why we don't categorise "Item by Service in X" - and it's broadly incomplete and has been for over 20 years, as well as being scattershot in its naming format to boot, so proposing deletion. Note that Category:World War II jet aircraft is excluded as a small, actually defining-due-to-newness categorization. The Bushranger One ping only 10:57, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I'm not sure WP:PERFCAT applies, mostly b/c wars are significant inter/national events that don't happen at the same frequency as performances, and it should be up to WT:MILHIST to decide (and to subsequently make explicit in WP:PERFCAT). Speaking of which, why wasn't WT:MILHIST notified of either CfD? These CfDs have large implications, and the WW1 one shouldn't have been closed without more discussion, or at the very least WP:SILENT consensus after a WikiProject notification. Ping to closer Bunnypranav.   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  11:34, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:¡Uno! ¡Dos! ¡Tré!

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Nominator's rationale: There is no scheme to categorize songs from a series of albums by that series. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 22:39, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I know there's Category:American Idiot but that's because there are more related articles beyond the songs from the album itself. Is there a need to begin having categories for songs by album? StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 19:17, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Split or delete?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 08:03, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Morozov family (merchants)

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Nominator's rationale: Everybody with the last name Morozov on Wikipedia is in this category and listed on Morozovs. There are apparently more on the Russian Wikipedia, but that shouldn't guide us here. Mike Selinker (talk) 02:27, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are two different and unrelated Morozov families. One is a boyar family, the other is a merchant family. They should not be merged into one. Otherwise, it may cause unnecessary confusion. Aronlee90 (talk) 05:33, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Orthwein business family

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Nominator's rationale: Everybody with the name Orthwein on Wikipedia is in this category and listed on Orthwein, so a disambiguator seems unneeded. Mike Selinker (talk) 02:25, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Sausmarez family (Guernsey)

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Nominator's rationale: Everybody named Sausmarez or Saumarez with a Wikipedia article is in this category (and in Saumarez), so I don't think we need a disambiguator. I think we should look to Saumarez and make this match the article title, even though there are two ways to spell the name. Mike Selinker (talk) 02:21, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Dimitry Family (Creoles)

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Nominator's rationale: I don't see any other articles on people with the last name Dimitry (with a y) that aren't in this category, so I don't think the disambiguator is needed. Regardless of that, "family" should be decapitalized. Mike Selinker (talk) 02:18, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Chavasse family (United Kingdom)

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Nominator's rationale: Everybody with the surname Chavasse on Wikipedia is in this category and listed on Chavasse family. No need for a disambiguator. Mike Selinker (talk) 02:14, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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